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Old 08-06-2007, 07:45 AM #1
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Question White People

I have a question for Caucasian people who get offended by the term "white."

I have a Lakota friend who is involved in writing up historical markers. She's stuck on the following sentence, and they won't allow her to leave it as is:

"Sitting Bull fought the white people."

She's told it's too offensive. How else are you supposed to describe a battle scene and participants? I don't think "Gold Diggers" or "Terrorists" would go over very well.

They weren't Americans or settlers because it wasn't the USA at the time.

No one can give her any answers. Got any suggestions?

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Old 08-06-2007, 08:36 AM #2
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Oh good grief! We live in a "politically correct era" that at times can be quite annoying.

"Sitting Bull fought the white people"

IMHO, there is nothing offensive about the use of "white people" and I don't really think anything else will sound right.

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nonesense!!

sitting bull fought the us calvery AND their CROW and ARIKARA allies!!!

i used to know an arikara -he was always drinking but nice
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The Wampanoags were often referred to as "white Indians" due to their light skin and are believed to have descended from Viking explorers. John Hyanno's mother is said to have been a princess of the Narragansett tribe and the daughter of Canonicus who was a sachem of some renown. Canonicus along with one Miantonomi were the two principals in deeding over what is now called Rhode Island to Roger Williams.

There is no proof of Bearse's gypsy ancestry. However, Jacobus' assertion that

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This particular battle did not include the Calvary. They were just white folks looking for some gold and a place to build a home, despite the warnings.
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then sitting bull fought white settlers and goldminers
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According to the date, the property was not yet a part of the United States - it was still "wild." A treaty had been signed by the government promising to stay off the property, so technically they could not be called settlers. Would you accept someone "settling" on your front yard - or kicking you out altogether?

Couldn't really call them "miners" because they weren't professionals sent out to do a job. They were just going through people's homes and destroying property in the hopes of making a fortune.
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Hey Clouds

The University of North Dakota is adamant about keeping their name. They insist it is an honor to Native Americans. Those responsible for providing the stadium say they'll tear it down if they take away their name "Fighting Sioux." Sioux means snake.

Should they be called "The Fighting Weasels?"
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Ok, that is lame

But: Sitting Bull fought the fair skinned people.

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Don't think the Sioux would appreciate that one. The battle was fair, but the people weren't at the time.

Would you describe intruders and thieves as fair?

I'm with Snoopy on this one. We'll keep going round and round in circles until we stop playing games and start looking at each other as human beings - eveyrwhere around the world.
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