Sanctuary for Spiritual Support This "Sanctuary" is a place for people of all spiritual beliefs and faiths to offer support and compassion to each other in the form of prayers, meditation, and expressions of spirituality. This forum is for support, not religious debate.


advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-12-2008, 05:52 PM #1
arthurhlevine
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
arthurhlevine
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default more on "the spiritual"

>>>> "There is something in all of us that seeks the spiritual…The spiritual is inclusive. It is the deepest sense of belonging and participation. We all participate in the spiritual at all times, whether we know it or not. There’s no place to go to be separated from the spiritual, so perhaps one might say that the spiritual is that realm of human experience which religion attempts to connect is to through dogma and practice. Sometimes it succeeds and sometimes it fails. Religion is a bridge to the spiritual ~ but the spiritual lies beyond religion. Unfortunately. In seeking the spiritual we may become attached to the bridge rather than crossing over it." <<<<

~ Rachel Naomi Remen, M.D.
  Reply With QuoteReply With Quote

advertisement
Old 01-13-2008, 10:31 AM #2
Looking4hope's Avatar
Looking4hope Looking4hope is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 294
15 yr Member
Looking4hope Looking4hope is offline
Member
Looking4hope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 294
15 yr Member
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by arthurhlevine View Post
>>>> "There is something in all of us that seeks the spiritual…The spiritual is inclusive. It is the deepest sense of belonging and participation. We all participate in the spiritual at all times, whether we know it or not. There’s no place to go to be separated from the spiritual, so perhaps one might say that the spiritual is that realm of human experience which religion attempts to connect is to through dogma and practice. Sometimes it succeeds and sometimes it fails. Religion is a bridge to the spiritual ~ but the spiritual lies beyond religion. Unfortunately. In seeking the spiritual we may become attached to the bridge rather than crossing over it." <<<<

~ Rachel Naomi Remen, M.D.
I really like this and I like the author as well. I am wondering if it is from the book "Kitchen Table Wisdom." I know that book really helped me get through some hard times.

For me, it was through the hard times and the realization that religion isn't necessarily sprituality, that I truly became aware that I am a very spiritual person. Anyone that has to dig deep into their own hearts, soul and psyche knows this to be true.

Thank you for this.
Looking4hope is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-13-2008, 11:18 PM #3
Idealist's Avatar
Idealist Idealist is offline
In Remembrance
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central VA
Posts: 1,937
15 yr Member
Idealist Idealist is offline
In Remembrance
Idealist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central VA
Posts: 1,937
15 yr Member
Default

I like this, too, and am an avid believer that spirituality and religiosity are two completely seperate things, although they do deal with the same subject. It's like the difference in memorizing the words of a poem or feeling the beauty of a poem as it swells in your own heart. Religion is basically a rigid framework, whereas spirituality is a liquid, flowing, ever-changing thing which reflects one's emotions and devotions at any particular moment. Jesus warned us against repititious words and behavior, because they are an insult to God's character and intelligence. Yet a large part of religion often involves exactly that. I hold nothing at all against those who practice religion as a framework for their spiritual lives, but I do believe that living in the spirit should be the end goal for anyone. I hope I've managed to say this in a way which will not offend anyone or make me sound like a fool, but I did feel compelled to add my two-cents worth here.

Idealist
Idealist is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Vowel Lady (01-21-2008)
Old 01-14-2008, 12:14 AM #4
Looking4hope's Avatar
Looking4hope Looking4hope is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 294
15 yr Member
Looking4hope Looking4hope is offline
Member
Looking4hope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 294
15 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Idealist View Post
I like this, too, and am an avid believer that spirituality and religiosity are two completely seperate things, although they do deal with the same subject. It's like the difference in memorizing the words of a poem or feeling the beauty of a poem as it swells in your own heart. Religion is basically a rigid framework, whereas spirituality is a liquid, flowing, ever-changing thing which reflects one's emotions and devotions at any particular moment. Jesus warned us against repititious words and behavior, because they are an insult to God's character and intelligence. Yet a large part of religion often involves exactly that. I hold nothing at all against those who practice religion as a framework for their spiritual lives, but I do believe that living in the spirit should be the end goal for anyone. I hope I've managed to say this in a way which will not offend anyone or make me sound like a fool, but I did feel compelled to add my two-cents worth here.

Idealist
I think you said that very well.

I love your analogy about poetry. It fits very well.
Looking4hope is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
Idealist (01-14-2008), Vowel Lady (01-21-2008)
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"The Bipolar Handbook" & "Horror Movie Hallucinations" Nathan1097 Bipolar Disorder 17 12-20-2007 06:41 PM
One step closer to making "Life on a Vent" synonymous with "Quality of Life"... BobbyB ALS News & Research 0 10-16-2007 07:41 AM
Nitration in neurodegeneration: deciphering the "Hows" "nYs". olsen Parkinson's Disease 0 09-05-2007 03:51 PM
"Instant Karma" - the Voices of Apathy -"Coulter and Limbaugh" lou_lou Parkinson's Disease 0 11-02-2006 05:20 PM
"Inside Edition" -using our "CHAMPION" film lou_lou Parkinson's Disease 4 10-27-2006 07:19 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:05 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.