[lady_express_44]

BEFORE YOU VOTE, PLEASE READ THIS OPENING POSTING FOR THIS THREAD. Please pick the two appropriate answers in the poll.

HereKitty did a poll on how many people smoke, used to smoke, etc. and so far the results are, approx:

32% still smoke
30% used to smoke, but don’t any more
39% never smoked

What I would like to know (of course NOT by individual name), is which group of people are most supportive of the ANTI-smoking laws to ban smoking in some places outside; parks, schools, beaches, etc.; is it the “never smoked”, or the “used to smoke” groups?

Furthermore, I want to know if those “anti” people feel they have any of their own bad habits, which if found out, may next be shunned by society?

I'm just curious, by number of people. No need to comment if you do not wish to. (I have a couple of theories and wonder if they would prove accurate if people were anonymous and honest...)

Cherie

[wkikta]

Not enough choices. How about never smoked, but am very tolerant of smokers.

[lady_express_44]

Originally Posted by wkikta

Not enough choices. How about never smoked, but am very tolerant of smokers.

That's not an option in this poll . . . but thank you. I am just anonymously focusing in on the anti-smokers, cause that's partially where these laws are stemming from.

Cherie

[Curious]

Originally Posted by lady_express_44

BEFORE YOU VOTE, PLEASE READ THIS OPENING POSTING FOR THIS THREAD. Please pick the two appropriate answers in the poll.

HereKitty did a poll on how many people smoke, used to smoke, etc. and so far the results are, approx:

32% still smoke
30% used to smoke, but don’t any more
39% never smoked

What I would like to know (of course NOT by individual name), is which group of people are most supportive of the ANTI-smoking laws to ban smoking in some places outside; parks, schools, beaches, etc.; is it the “never smoked”, or the “used to smoke” groups?

Furthermore, I want to know if those “anti” people feel they have any of their own bad habits, which if found out, may next be shunned by society?

I'm just curious, by number of people. No need to comment if you do not wish to. (I have a couple of theories and wonder if they would prove accurate if people were anonymous and honest...)

Cherie

i am not seeing the point of the part i bolded.

bad habits are one thing...but that doesn't mean they effect anyone else. if someone pops their knuckles...another person isn't ingesting that into their body or clothes. who can be allergic to someone's knuckle popping?

how is smoking classifed as just a "bad habit" to compare?

[lady_express_44]

Originally Posted by Curious

bad habits are one thing...but that doesn't mean they effect anyone else. if someone pops their knuckles...another person isn't ingesting that into their body or clothes. who can be allergic to someone's knuckle popping?

You might want to read the other thread I started (about what people might start picking on next as "inappropriate behavior", for whatever reasons ...):

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread44849.html

Some examples of behavior that might be viewed socially unacceptable, or of consequence to others (either strangers or our families) might include:

- alcoholism or currently drink too much (or in appropriate places)
- have been known to drive “tipsy” at times
- physically, emotionally or sexually abusive
- unhealthy, unfit or obese (things that they could change only!)
- litter; sunflower seeds, ignoring their child that does it, etc.
- have stolen or taken advantage of financial gain
- gamble or have other addictions that waste money unnecessarily
- etc.

I guess the point is, I really don't think anybody is perfect . . . and if 30%+ of the population is being shunned for this particular imperfection, probably everyone is fair game for being picked on (once smoking is outlawed).

Cherie

[Curious]

oh i agree cherie. i have read the other thread.

i do think everyone has some bad habit, but imo there is a huge difference if that habit doesn't effect anyone but the person.

biting fingernails, then touching stuff in stores...gross and spreads germs. yup effects others. picking nose..same thing.

i just think the wording should be changed to clarify.

[sugarboo]

Interesting Fact Cherie: A survey was done with Pro-Life supporters (women) and found that MOST had had an abortion (that they now regret)...and were now anti-abortion.

(I'm not bringing up a new argument, just quoteing a survey).

My new Supervisor is an ex-smoker and when a trucker arrived at the window smoking the other day, she became unglued on him for his smoke that was sucked into our window. I just smiled and said "It smells good to me" LOL. I had not had a smoke in hours....But if she could vote in your survey, it would be ex-smoker and livid with those who do now....similar to the above survey I quoted....

OK...Got to do some school..... blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......

[sugarboo]

Originally Posted by lady_express_44

- alcoholism or currently drink too much (or in appropriate places)
- have been known to drive “tipsy” at times
- physically, emotionally or sexually abusive
- unhealthy, unfit or obese (things that they could change only!)
- litter; sunflower seeds, ignoring their child that does it, etc.
- have stolen or taken advantage of financial gain
- gamble or have other addictions that waste money unnecessarily
- etc.


Cherie

NOTE: All of these habits effect others.

Alcohol can kill on the road. It can destroy families and their children.
Physical, Emotional and Sexual abuse has victims too.
Bad health effects families, the community and Insurance companies.
Littering hurts the environment, thus all of us.
Gambling also affects families.

So these are not victimless crimes.....one may think that their bad-habit does not hurt others, but there is cause and effect in everything we do.

Now I'm really in school

EDIT:
Curious Said: bad habits are one thing...but that doesn't mean they effect anyone else. if someone pops their knuckles...another person isn't ingesting that into their body or clothes. who can be allergic to someone's knuckle popping

This does effect others. My DD did this for years...its annoying and makes me want to scream. Imagine sitting next to someone in a pod at work and listening to this all day.....really...all bad habits effect others somehow, someway....

I think Cherie has this one nailed down to the realities of it all. There may be different degrees to which it causes problems....destroyed families, bad health or annoying....but the points are good points....

BUT LOVE ALL OF YOU REGARDLESS!!!

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by wkikta

Not enough choices. How about never smoked, but am very tolerant of smokers.

I agree with Bill on this.

I don't smoke and never have but I have been around smokers all my life. I feel the smoking bans are a form of discrimination and in some cases quite extreme.

I understand your just focusing on the anti-smokers but felt like giving my opinion.

[sassy]

I am in the corner of stopping all smoking in public places. I am an ex-smoker, I really don't know what that has to do with it.

My husband is a smoker but doesn't smoke in the house or in my vehicle.

My son, who never smoked, is working as a bartender trying to get through college. He gets terrible bronchitis from the smoke. I know some will say he could get another job and he could but this job gives him the flexible schedule to see his daughter, take classes and enough money to pay for them and his bills.

The statistic that told us that for every 4 cigarettes a smoker smokes around us is for us non-smokers equal to us smoking one cigarette cinched it for me. Why should I be forced to smoke your cigarettes?

And drunk driving is not a "bad habit", it is against the law and dangerous to all.