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Old 07-01-2008, 12:34 PM #1
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Default Mucuna warning!

For those of you that read my posts you know I've been prettty busy with my Mirapex assisted obsessions. The latest has been aquireing shoes I don't need. However i noticed a few days ago that I was paying more attention than usual to the males around me....most of which recently have held little to no interest if I had a shoe cataloge in hand, or a piece of cheesecake in the fridge. (or just about any other distraction you can think of). However, beng very protective of my personal space, a part of me sat up and sniffed the air and asked what is this blowing into my life on the wind.

Well it seems that mucana has a few side effects that you might want to take note of. (Yes I've been dabbling in the mucana to see if I could drop back my sinemet) For starts it makes your neighbours husband a lot more interesting. SCARY!

Just thought I'd run this past you as a word of warning. Even my ex husband doesn't look so bad...REALLY SCARY!!!
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Whoah, Rosebud, do you think we should halt the clinical trial? (heheheh)

Guess it depends on who your neighbor is, no? Maybe that could be part of the warning label...
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Wasn't it [or maybe it should be isn't it] used as an aphrodisiac [sp?] in India?

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Wasn't it [or maybe it should be isn't it] used as an aphrodisiac [sp?] in India?

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It's touted all over the net for libido boosting. Mine's been sleeping for years and recently, loh and behold....well, never mind...as long as you remember how crazy homones made you feel back in the day. Insaner! etc.

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Default great!!!!

and I don't mean that in a good way. I wonder if it would help if I cut back on the mirapex? I certainly don't want to go around feeling like this all the time. It (the mucuna) has helped my meds run a lot smoother and my mood is quite good. I'd be a lot of fun at a party today....good thing I'm staying home.
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Default Is it a bug? Or a feature?

I don't know how it is for the "gentler" half <yeah, right! > but, for me at least, every blamed thing that works seems to bump up the libido. And if you think about it <that's "it", not "It!">, that should not be surprising since those are the very energy pathways we are dealing with. For those who follow such things - each morning as I come to life there is a definite opening of the first and second chakras. These are very primal energy centers and they become blocked in PD. That can't be healthy.

Now you know how all those teenage boys felt.

But seriously, be careful, be selective, and have as much fun as you can stand.
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at a loss for words... an unusual condition for me. I just happen to have a teenage son. Now I'm really worried! I recently had a conversation with him him over an internet site he was trying to access (on my computer...pretty dumb!) I said to him,,, well it's my job to talk to you about this, what do you want? He looked me squarely in the eye and said "I want this conversation to go away!"

I guess I'll just have to deal with it as it comes down the road. Seriously, I cannot just go sew my wild mucana seeds all over town. Apart from this forum I cannot even think of who I can talk to. I've noted that no one has hit the "Thanks for this" selection on any of these comments. Maybe I'll just go hide UNDER the bed....by myself....forever! oops,somebody did hit the thanks button while I was posting!
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i think those not on it are waiting to find out where to get samples.
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Default I'll be serious for a minute

I can see the potential for problems, of course. I don't think mucuna will make one lose control. If it did the East India Company would have said "to heck with the tea and spices!" and the world would be a different place.

I am more concerned, however, with mixing it with Mirapex. One of the life-destroying side effects besides gambling is hypersexuality. Now, that's a lot different than deciding that the Old Goat isn't such a bad guy after all....

But even in the latter case, many of us live alone and don't get out much. And explaining PD to a new friend is not exactly seductive. Maybe the bigger towns could support a YOPD social club or some venue where it wouldn't be necessary.

I'm not at all sure, but I suspect that this may be more of a problem for the ladies than the gents for several reasons. One is the prudish, hypocritical double standard of our society. Another is a matter of self-esteem. Men are crazy. They can actually be on all fours, unable to walk and sincerely believe they are sexy. Women have been taught that they must look like a magazine cover. Forget that, ladies. I will let you in on a secret-enthusiasm makes up for everything. So, if you do find an old goat worth taking home, don't for one minute sell yourself short. He is a very lucky man and just doesn't know it yet.


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at a loss for words... an unusual condition for me. I just happen to have a teenage son. Now I'm really worried! I recently had a conversation with him him over an internet site he was trying to access (on my computer...pretty dumb!) I said to him,,, well it's my job to talk to you about this, what do you want? He looked me squarely in the eye and said "I want this conversation to go away!"

I guess I'll just have to deal with it as it comes down the road. Seriously, I cannot just go sew my wild mucana seeds all over town. Apart from this forum I cannot even think of who I can talk to. I've noted that no one has hit the "Thanks for this" selection on any of these comments. Maybe I'll just go hide UNDER the bed....by myself....forever! oops,somebody did hit the thanks button while I was posting!
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Default Here is the article Rosebud is talking about

And so kindly sent me. You have been for-warned


The Natural Herb Mucuna Offers Hope Tuesday, July 1, 2008 7:34 AM
From: "Robert Rodgers, Ph.D." robert@parkinsonsrecovery.com


The Natural Herb Mucuna Offers Hope

We hear encouraging reports from people who have been taking the
herb Mucuna. Some people use Mucuna as their primary treatment.
Others use Mucuna in conjunction with Parkinson's medications
under the close supervision of their doctor. The word "on the street"
is that Mucuna seems to help traditional medications last longer
and reduce the dose that is needed to relieve symptoms.

Mucuna is an Ayurvedic herb that is also known as velvet bean or
cowhage. It is a natural herb that grows over 15 meters in length.
Mucuna bears white, lavender or purple flowers with pods that hang
in long, dangling clusters. The seeds are shiny black or brown in
colour. Mucuna is found primarily in tropical regions of the world.

Mucuna seeds contain high concentrations of levodopa which is a
direct precursor of the neurotransmitter dopamine. People who have
Parkinson's are deficient in dopamine relative to the other
neurotransmitters. Dopamine does not cross the blood-brain barrier
and therefore cannot be used directly as a treatment. However,
levodopa does gain access to the brain where it is converted to
dopamine.

I have a warning for those of you who are motivated to search for
more information about Mucuna on the Internet. Mucuna is also an
aphrodisiac. It is widely promoted on sexual enhancement websites.
Dopamine has a profound influence on sexual function, mood and
movement. It increases libido in both men and women because of
its dopamine inducing properties.

Mucuna has been used for generations as a remedy for Parkinson's
in Ayurvedic Indian medicine. In large amounts it has been shown to
be as effective as pure levodopa in the treatment of Parkinson's
Disease. Mucuna also has antioxidant properties which are helpful
in repairing damage to neural tissues.

Needless to say, Mucuna is not a "cure" nor should it be used
without the close supervision of a doctor. The good news is that it
is an entirely natural alternative to traditional medications and
offers hope that symptoms can be relieved.

Robert Rodgers, Ph.D.
Parkinsons Recovery

© 2008 Parkinsons Recovery







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