advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-20-2009, 06:36 PM #1
Hope15's Avatar
Hope15 Hope15 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 236
15 yr Member
Hope15 Hope15 is offline
Member
Hope15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 236
15 yr Member
Default Muscle cramping?

For those of you who have had success in finding relief for muscle cramping, I would love hear about what you have found to be helpful. I tried to go shopping today and was very uncomfortable with the dull aching, raw shooting pain in my legs. I take 1800 mg. of gabapentin, and vicodin for my bad back, but it sure doesn't do the trick.
Hope15 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote

advertisement
Old 01-20-2009, 06:56 PM #2
Kitt Kitt is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,427
15 yr Member
Kitt Kitt is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,427
15 yr Member
Arrow

Ultra sound heat therapy is good for my back when I can convince my new chiropractor that that is all I need. I also use Biofreeze on it and heat but not together. At night I will take an Advil although I hate taking anything.

If I could, I would just have ultra sound heat therapy but my new chiropractor can't make any money that way. I finally figured that out which doesn't take a rocket scientist My old chiropractor would do just that when I needed it. It seems the past six months have really been much worse as far as cramping in my back. Wish I'd get over the cramping.
__________________
Kitt

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"It is what it is."
Kitt is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-21-2009, 11:25 AM #3
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Lightbulb a suggestion...

Hope, this is a reminder...

You take 2 drugs that deplete magnesium, from the body.
Many muscle cramps are helped by adequate magnesium intake.
Calcium is used by muscles to contract, and the magnesium relaxes them. You can even soak in epsom salts before bedtime and that will help too.

7 out of 10 people do not consume the RDA for magnesium.
Add to that drugs that remove it from the body, or metabolic problems like diabetes, you have a situation where the muscles begin to tell you things.

Here is my magnesium thread:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

This is a very important mineral... please read which forms are better than others, and learn how to choose foods high in magnesium so you may not even need supplements.
Your goal now is to supplement at least 1/2 of the RDA for this mineral. Not a large amount.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-21-2009, 12:18 PM #4
Hope15's Avatar
Hope15 Hope15 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 236
15 yr Member
Hope15 Hope15 is offline
Member
Hope15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 236
15 yr Member
Default

Thank you mrsD. I need to really sit down and get going on a course of supplements recommended by you. When I really get down, I like to go to the stickys and read about those who have improved by taking care of themselves and taking the proper supplements. We are lucky to have many knowledgeable people here such as yourself.





Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsD View Post
Hope, this is a reminder...

You take 2 drugs that deplete magnesium, from the body.
Many muscle cramps are helped by adequate magnesium intake.
Calcium is used by muscles to contract, and the magnesium relaxes them. You can even soak in epsom salts before bedtime and that will help too.

7 out of 10 people do not consume the RDA for magnesium.
Add to that drugs that remove it from the body, or metabolic problems like diabetes, you have a situation where the muscles begin to tell you things.

Here is my magnesium thread:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

This is a very important mineral... please read which forms are better than others, and learn how to choose foods high in magnesium so you may not even need supplements.
Your goal now is to supplement at least 1/2 of the RDA for this mineral. Not a large amount.
Hope15 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 06:09 PM #5
EHorst99 EHorst99 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: California
Posts: 30
15 yr Member
EHorst99 EHorst99 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: California
Posts: 30
15 yr Member
Default Avoiding taking magnesium and gabapentin at the same time

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsD View Post
Hope, this is a reminder...

You take 2 drugs that deplete magnesium, from the body.
Many muscle cramps are helped by adequate magnesium intake.
Calcium is used by muscles to contract, and the magnesium relaxes them. You can even soak in epsom salts before bedtime and that will help too.

7 out of 10 people do not consume the RDA for magnesium.
Add to that drugs that remove it from the body, or metabolic problems like diabetes, you have a situation where the muscles begin to tell you things.

Here is my magnesium thread:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread1138.html

This is a very important mineral... please read which forms are better than others, and learn how to choose foods high in magnesium so you may not even need supplements.
Your goal now is to supplement at least 1/2 of the RDA for this mineral. Not a large amount.

Apparently some caution is needed in taking magnesium at the same time as gabapetin. A little "googling" uncovered the following and similar comments elsewhere:
MAGNESIUM

Dr. Seastrunk says that magnesium should not be taken with Neurontin at all because it competes for the receptors in the brain that Neurontin is attempting to reach.

However, Parke-Davis and CFS specialists prescribing Neurontin suggest only that the two drugs be separated by two hours.

Since magnesium does have antacid properties, taking the two together may immediately interfere with Neurontin being correctly absorbed in the stomach. This also applies to prescription medication that lessens gastric motility and acidity as well as all other antacids.

Because magnesium levels are often low in people with CFS and FMS, many of us feel that it is very important to continue taking magnesium. By scheduling the magnesium between doses of Neurontin (preferably once a day and as far apart as possible), hopefully there will be minimum interference with Neurontin.
EHorst99 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 01-22-2009, 07:11 PM #6
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Wink Thank you for the reminder.

IMO the magnesium is more important than the gabapentin, for most people. You cannot live without it, but you can live without gabapentin.

From what I have read, it is mainly an absorption problem. In fact gabapentin has limited absorption already, especially in high doses.

So do space the two apart for best results.
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
dahlek (01-22-2009)
Old 01-22-2009, 11:40 PM #7
ann-elizabeth ann-elizabeth is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 72
15 yr Member
ann-elizabeth ann-elizabeth is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 72
15 yr Member
Default

Oh boy...do I know this symptom. I currently take Baclofen 30 mg's at night to treat muscle spasms.

The other day, I was out of Baclofen...not a good thing. I decided to soak for 20 minutes in my tub with 4 cups of dead sea salts. You can get it at Saltworks. It has high levels of various minerals directly from the Dead Sea. I also decided to take Calm plus Calcium which is a powder that contains calcium, magnesium, Vitamin D, Boron & potassium. You mix it with hot water and drink it like tea.

Amazingly, I did not have any cramps that night. the Calm Plus Calcium is available at iherb.com.

Good luck...I know how bad it can be.....

Ann
ann-elizabeth is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What is the best muscle relaxer? balmygirl3 Medications & Treatments 9 04-14-2008 04:35 PM
help with muscle atrophy J.Ray New Member Introductions 6 02-26-2008 09:59 AM
Muscle weakness with PN Valese72 Peripheral Neuropathy 12 02-11-2008 04:00 PM
muscle pain bluestone Myasthenia Gravis 8 08-22-2007 09:05 AM
Muscle Changes ann-elizabeth Peripheral Neuropathy 2 06-05-2007 11:45 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:14 PM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.