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Hello again!

As I just turned 57 years old and also had Chicken Pox as a child, I would like to get your thoughts regarding the Shingles Vaccination.

Obviously, as one with long-standing SFN and also nerve pain within my joints due to my Lyme (and its co-infections Bartonella and Babesa)), the last thing I need is a new bout of neuropathy from Shingles.

What are your thoughts (and risks for someone with my history, if any) from getting the vaccination?

I also know that the first varient of the vaccination only lasted for a few years, and a newer, long-lasting version is coming soon (if not out already).

Many thanks!

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vaccines, vaccines, vaccines.

This is one environmental factor that is impacting many people today. I personally think they are responsible for some PNs...
Vaccines today are huge money makers for Big Pharma too.

It is your choice about getting the Shingles vaccines. Just Google and research it completely. I don't know about the "new" vaccine, other than the commercials on TV. But the original one used another strain of Herpes Zoster, and was only about 50% effective.
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David, this information might help you in deciding whether or not to get vaccinated against shingles Vaccines: VPD-VAC/Shingles/Shingles (Herpes zoster) Vaccination: What You Need to Know.
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Hello again!

As I just turned 57 years old and also had Chicken Pox as a child, I would like to get your thoughts regarding the Shingles Vaccination.

Obviously, as one with long-standing SFN and also nerve pain within my joints due to my Lyme (and its co-infections Bartonella and Babesa)), the last thing I need is a new bout of neuropathy from Shingles.

What are your thoughts (and risks for someone with my history, if any) from getting the vaccination?

I also know that the first varient of the vaccination only lasted for a few years, and a newer, long-lasting version is coming soon (if not out already).

Many thanks!


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My SFN started shortly after I got the Shingles vaccine and I have since wondered (actually believe without proof) that this was the cause of my problem. I would be very cautious.
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... many thanks for all of your comments! I will wait until I am 60-years old (in three years) and then reevaluate.

Personally, I think that the Flu Vaccine is basically useless, and have stopped getting them.

However, a vaccine that I am a strong believer in is the "Pneumococcal Vaccine", and I have now had both vaccinations (each containing different strains). When you read the press about tens of thousands of older Americans dying from the "Flu" each year, in reality what they are actually dying from is Pneumonia brought on BY the Flu.

I think that if they had gotten the duel pneumococcal vaccinations many would not have died, whereas I don't think the "Flu" vaccination accomplishes much (and is a money-making tool only).

Thoughts ... Mrs D?
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This is complicated.

Flu virus uses RNA as its genetic material which means that it mutates rapidly compared to DNA viruses. This process leads to what is technically called antigenic drift, which means that each year flu virus may be quite similar to previous versions (so most people will be immune to it) or it might be quite different (so many people will be fairly susceptible to it).

I pointed this out to my GP who commented that, because I am not immuno-compromised and have no other relevant underlying health problems, he saw no reason for me to get a flu vaccine.

Pneumococcal disease, caused by Streptococcus pneumonia, can include pneumococcal pneumonia, pneumococcal otitis media and pneumococcal meningitis - the latter is extremely serious.

Here, because of this, pneumococcal vaccination is recommended and is free for children, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and all people over 65.
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As I just turned 57 years old and also had Chicken Pox as a child, I would like to get your thoughts regarding the Shingles Vaccination.

David - just a couple of comments. My husband is the one with PN (idiopathic) and his GP recommended he not get the vaccine. Because his PN has an unknown cause he felt it was risky to put another potential irritant into his body. Not sure there are any scientific reasons for this - he just felt it was too perilous.

From my perspective I have had shingles and I would highly recommend getting the vaccine to anyone healthy enough to receive it - the pain was unlike anything I had ever experienced. I know it's not 100% effective, but anything that maybe helps me not get it again is useful

l think you really have to weigh up the pros and cons - everyone's situation is different.

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As I just turned 57 years old and also had Chicken Pox as a child, I would like to get your thoughts regarding the Shingles Vaccination.

David - just a couple of comments. My husband is the one with PN (idiopathic) and his GP recommended he not get the vaccine. Because his PN has an unknown cause he felt it was risky to put another potential irritant into his body. Not sure there are any scientific reasons for this - he just felt it was too perilous.

From my perspective I have had shingles and I would highly recommend getting the vaccine to anyone healthy enough to receive it - the pain was unlike anything I had ever experienced. I know it's not 100% effective, but anything that maybe helps me not get it again is useful


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I will likely get the Shingles vaccine when I turn 60, and additional information about it is available as well as potentially a newer, longer-lasting version (the current version only protects for five years).

Thanks for all of your feedback!

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Dr. Blaylock MD is on YouTube with several videos, where he explains the adjuvants in vaccines, and the harm they can do causing autoimmune reactions. It is really the additives in vaccines that are the invasive risks that he found in the research.

I think those here who want more information will enjoy them.
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