Thanks for input Dubious,,,,
Not sure if sent reply, not sure if I'm doing things right, confusing myself, with threads lol

I have all problems you've mentioned, plus pain is also further down back, going into right leg, making me less mobile.
I have same problem, as above in disc's 4/5, less severe my MRI scan says??
I do thank you for your input/help, just trying to understand better, before see Neuro surgeon,,,
Thanks again lin