But the problem IMHO is that this forum serves multiple needs. The social bleeds into the serious into the humorous into the supportive and so on. All are needed but each needs a place and, as was pointed out, Lloyd's suggestion should have gotten a little better treatment or at least consideration. Of course, look who's talking. My ideas get a wide range of reactions but that is to be expected when they are so darn brilliant,

I don't know what the solution might be but one of the great things about this forum has been the quality of the people. So many others groups are made up of poor PWP who are just waiting to die. No sense of hope - apathy reigns.

For myself. I'll keep throwing things at the wall and see what sticks. I'm always open to suggestions.