Lara is right, your son is still your son even though he can't see it right now. I pray that she is right in thinking that he will recover and love himself again. When you are in that black hole you cannot think! You do not, cannot consider your loved ones, you want the pain to end. I know I don't need to talk to you about pain Mark...you know it all too well. I think your remarkable faith in God enables you to live thru the misery.

I am sure that our Michael never considered what his act would do to those of us left behind. His now adult son told me that his father was a selfish coward. ~sigh Our grown grandsons way of dealing with it is NOT talking about suicide...he said that "works for him".

Talking about it heals us! Your dear son needs to talk and talk about his feelings. And someone needs to LISTEN!

I am so sorry you all are having to go through this nightmare. Please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.