Thanks Jo*mar, I will look into TOS also. But right now I have blood work to evaluate this week, discussing b12 shots with my doc (tested low in 2006), many things to do. I'll discuss your suggestions at some point probably with an orthopaedic and/or physio, but those people are lower on my priority list at the moment. In 2 weeks i have a visit in the university clinic here for emg and what not, I'll see what they want to test. I think I will insist my problems are limited to my upper body, who they are, so that's what they should examine thoroughly, if possible. I thought I was given a thorough MRI back in 2006, but maybe the doctors managed to do it wrong? I've heard actors so times do manage to get things wrong :-(