If she doesn't want children what is she whining about??

Now that is POOR communication on her part. Either you want a kid or you don't...and you should probably make sure both of you are on the same page at the beginning..I do hear the irony in the cartoon tho...sometimes we do not know what it is that we really want.

I also have to comment on the MEN in prehistoric times 'taking' women...on the contrary, we have found North American Indigenous Peoples, passed on their goods, matrilineally. (I hope I spelled that one right.) Yes, men moved in with the woman's family, as they owned the house, the dogs, the hides, and whatever else one needed back then...he became part of her clan.

I think that is really interesting, given mitochondrial DNA is of course, all matrilineal. (Oh and get this, when the woman got sick of the man, she just put whatever she felt was 'his' stuff outside the tent and he was free to go. I bet this did not happen often) They also were tolerant of 'alternative' life styles as well...Men however, have 33% more muscle strength in general than women. They have bigger brains for body size. Thing is, how much of either brain or brawn we use affects performance. Female premature babies survive more often, women tend to live longer, and we probably are used to dealing with conditions like anemia and deprivation better. I can tell you I would certainly prefer to be lost in the woods with a man, than a gaggle of women...It pays to have the advantage of differences in some areas.

Of course we have differences. For example, why are women more prone to autoimmune disorders, well, our immune systems must adapt to a foreign object and nurture it for 9 months....you better believe our immune systems work different, or there would be no Marses or Venuses to debate this.

Men tend to resolve issues in more physical domains, and females tend to talk, socialize or gossip out the problem. Neither is really better....a konk on the head or kick in the butt is sometimes less painful than a terrible social snub.

By saying women are all nuturant, it is like saying all men are insensitive. I think we are all on a continuum. Nothing is meaner than a mother protecting her young...just happen upon some type of nest, and you will likely wish you hadn't, even given the diminuitve size of the animal...

Women have been heavily utilized in roles in this present war...can they fight hand to hand and win?...Probably not, can they aim with precision and fire, yes they can! They have had a higher rate of PTSD upon return, however that may simply reflect their willingness to seek help. Most women know how hard it is to get that hubby to the doctor. In my household, getting men to a medical provider is like pulling teeth.

My son had a child die in his arms in this war....I do not think you will find a man more affected by that horrible scene than him...worse yet, he nurtured that child for almost 6 months, giving him money etc, to help his family.

I have found some of the men on the forum as nurturant and helpful as the women. I have also unfortunately encountered the opposite, but not often. I have seen some of the women as factual and informational without the hugs, as the men, however, there is likely some gossip exchanged on PMs....I don't know.

Women tend to be the emotional barometers of their families...we do, in general, have the ability to sense the unseen and unspoken. That doesn't mean we don't offer solutions, or that men are total insensitive geeks.

I think we had better ALL get along the best we can. In general, I think we do, pretty well actually. It is amazing.
If we need information, let's be clear and ask.
If we need support, lets ask.
If we need a kick in the butt, let's ask.
If we want to whine and say nothing works...fine, but we may not get a reply, unless some one feels that nurturing will help when other things haven't.
If we see irony and humor, let's share it.
If we have inspirational stories, let's share them.

Remember we can always PM someone with more personal thoughts of support, and I find that PMs work better that way....The whole world for perpetuity, does not need to know I offered some one an emoticonic hug.

It is possible to be on the net, and not identify gender, and I do not know the gender of some contributors, that is fine, unless, I am trying to assist with some type of information that might involve gender.

On the net, we don't have the advantage, or disadvantage of body language or expressions, so sometimes things get misinterpretted.

I don't think it is ever appropriate for one member to bash another by name on this forum or any other in threads...if one has a beef, tell that person....'We are having a disagreement'...not 'so and so is insensitive'...

I do think I am one, along with a few other females who were dubbed 'insensitive' not too long ago. I personally, think it was ridiculous, however, not every one thought along the same lines, and it was probably painful for some members to be slandered here and on other forums by screen name.

BTW, you, David, would certainly be the kind to debate it out face to face on here, that is called personal integrity, and you have it...so do most of us on here. I respect that, and it means I can respect your opinion on matters. I think at times, we also, agree to disagree on points and move on.

We can dwell on our differences or we can unite in our similarities.

I prefer to enjoy everyone's personalities, every ones info, and 'hear what I want to hear and disregard the rest'...la la la..(old song)

Yep, David we are all different, and gender is one thing that makes us different....thank goodness for that. One only has to read the thread where lawn care help ws discussed to see how much gender matters, and is a source of both enjoyment and frustration.

We must not forget Marie Curie was a woman, and it doesn't get much more clinical, practical AND probably sensitive.