I think both!
And she's getting too old for this, she's 37. She'll be almost 60
when this new one gets out of college. and she home schools all of her kids (she's got a B.A. in elementary ed.).
I've talked to her husband about the BIG "V" (vasectomy- got mine after kid #3 in 1977 - #4 is my step-son, in college now), but he's Catholic (barely- doesn't actively practice) and it seems to go in one ear and out the other.