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Originally Posted by Diandra
Hi DV,
Sorry it took so long to respond. Sometimes I forget where I posted and every week or so I look at the list of my posts....
When your docs talk about juice fasting long term, how long are they talking about? Have you ever done a juice fast before?
I have never done a juice fast for more than 2 days. When I juice, I do it in addition to my regular diet. It might be purely psychological but, I get light headed and "antsy" and cant sleep when I fast. At HHI they said it was because I was detoxing and because when we aren't using all that enegy to digest food there is alot of excess energy and that is why sleep issues and jittery feeling.
I have spoken to people who have done longer juice fasts and they say once you get past a few days, all those issues level off.
It must be so frustrating to be allergic or react badly to most meds. Does that mean supplements and vitamins as well or prescription or OTC only?
When I had reached the point when nothing seemed to help my crazy Lyme Disease symptoms (this was decades ago) I did Vit C IVs and all kinds of injections like magnesium,b12, calcium and it helped me quite a big. My doc tried so many things back then, natural thyroid and bovine colostrum and these weird vibrational concoctions....when I am desperate, I will try anything.
How did your meetings go with the specialists you met with a couple weeks ago?
Any new treatment plans?
It is late and I am nodding off.
It is so great your husband juices with you.
I had not heard of a Breville juicer...will look into it as my juicer is old and a pain in the butt to clean.
Take care...Diandra
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Hi Diandra,
No worries about responding. I, too, often forget where I have posted.
I have met with specialists. We have not drawn up a new treatment plan.
We've exhausted most options. Specialists need time to confer with one another and we all meet again over the next two months. I am challenged with multiple conditions. In many cases, the treatment of one condition is contraindicated in co-existing conditions. If/when we identify potential treatments which are okay for co-occurring conditions, they are few in number and I am often allergic to those few. It's often very frustrating.
All of my specialists are fine with a strict juice fast -- with lower calorie veggie juices. My primary care doctor feels this may have the best potential for change (detox and fewer meds, lower daily prednisone dose, possibly).
I have also done juicing by combining it with solid food. I am dong this as my first stage of moving into a strict juice fast with no solids. I am also increasing raw foods right now. I will slowly transition into a strict juicing program. My PCP would like to see me do a strict juice fast for up to 30 days, under his supervision, and depending upon my tolerance. Time will tell.
He is a fan of the documentary, "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead." In the documentary, Joe has autoimmune challenges and is on daily prednisone. He cannot get off the prednisone and keeps feeling worse and worse over time. Joe goes on a juice fast. He also travels the U.S. and talks to people about diet, health challenges, juicing, lifestyle. He juices with a (Breville) juicer in the back of his car when traveling. (I did not know he was using a Breville until I had already bought mine, upon advice of a couple of experienced juicing "gurus," not affiliated with Joe. In the documentary, Joe is a beginner at juicing.)
I am very lucky my husband enjoys juicing.
He is very open-minded and had also participated in a full year of a"macrobiotic" diet when I tried that approach. He also took macrobiotic meals to work for lunch.
He is extremely supportive and enjoys learning all about dietary approaches.
He gets a bit creative with any protocol and has fun.
He won't be attempting a strict juice fast. He needs more than juice in order to attend to his career, etc. He will continue to juice once a day and will help me with juicing. I am very fortunate.
After a strict juicing protocol, if I can tolerate strict juicing, I then intend to fully adopt a level (of 3 levels) of the Wahls protocol.
Great to hear from you on this, Diandra.
I remain hopeful for our healing, yours, others', and mine.
Warmly,
DejaVu
P.S. Diandra, I have also done vitamin IVs and injections in the past. I have done comprehensive supplemental regimens. I have also done a few things that were probably "nonsensical."
I need a newly refined plan now. I am currently trying to put together a helpful new plan.