niggs I think you are right, the balance of doses of our different meds and supplements is very delicate, different for everyone, and needs to be changed accordingly. I had bugger of a time with what should have been a very benign addition of an anti-cholinageric to my (what I thought was stable and effective) regimen. my neuro meant well trying to help with tremor, but in hindsight should not have messed with what was working. good luck to you budgies, I hope things work out. (ps I used to listen to a welsh rock band named budgie back in the 70's)