answering my own post. Not really, but just an observation. Since resting and not talking much for five days, I looked in the mirror, and it looks like I have had a surgical face lift. My eyes are not droopy, I have more tone in my face. Breathing a little better. All these years and I finally figure it out. My dad is coming for a visit. I will make a note on how droopy I look after. I hate seeing photos of myself, but hubby is my witness. I wonder if chest appendages improve tone with rest