Thank you for your reply. I will share this article with my family. The waiting for appointments is so difficult. I live in Canada and our health system is so slow. If you are not dying you wait. The doctor put me on oxycodon today to help me with pain. It helps a bit but I am not one for pills, I just want them to fix me! New discs perhaps, I do not want a fusion. I have read that Germany offers great new procedures for disc disease but I am afraid they will refuse to help me because I am so loose in my joints. Have you ever heard about anyone who has gone to Germany for that? Take care and thank you again for your help.