I keep finding more info on grape seed ex and now on the kidneys and from City of Hope:

http://www.sooperarticles.com/health...ys-741703.html

Since I do take some pain meds: ibuprofen and Pain RX herbal, another health support person was giving me warning about kidneys. Well, this is good news and my kidneys are good I believe, 20 yrs of grape seed ex. This person was "pushing" for back surgery and I won't go there.