Hi Madisongrrl,
This is great stuff. Thank you for sharing. Did I not see it, or is the first link/study not specify whether they administered MK4 or 7? It seems like it was a mix of K1 and K2 (ambiguously), no? The second link is clearly positive for MK4, and the last one unfavorable for MK7, no doubt.
What to conclude? I think what you say is right. My inclination now is to take both, or a supplement that has both. But there is this:
http://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/...475-2891-11-93. So if taking 4, especially if alone, I would imagine needing to supplement at higher doses, though would that be safe? But it seems like the limited research has at least raised concern regarding whether the serum availability of 7, which is clearly far superior, translates into bone availability or saturation, which is after all the real issue, right?
I wonder now if my reaction to the two supplements is to the K2, or more precisely to soy. I used to eat a ton of soy, but that was before all this. I'm curious how the Pure Encapsulations will work out - that's 7 and K1, and I imagine lanoline derived D3.
So, before sending this off, I tried to find another study, and did find a longer, three-year study and it seems quite a bit more promising:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23525894. Interestingly, the total hip was once again not well served. I wonder what's going on there.
Alright, that's it for now. Thanks again for the links and the thoughts. I might think if finding something with some MK4 too, though it seems I would need a high dose. I have to do a bit more research when I have more time.
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Originally Posted by madisongrrl
HI David,
MK7 is definitely more bioavailable, but I've been putting in a little bit of research and it seems like the clinical properties in the MK7 are NOT as proven in the scientific literature as they are for MK4. Part of this could be because MK7 has been studied less than MK4. And there have been no comparator studies that have looked at which one is superior...at least I haven't found any yet.
In rat studies they have looked at arterial calcification and found that K2 MK4 is what the arteries prefer. We aren't good converters of K1 (leafy greens) to K2 MK4, so supplementing with the MK4 form will possibly help reverse or prevent arterial calcification.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17138823
MK4 seems to be very effective at preventing osteoporosis related fractures in humans.
http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/arti...ticleid=410550
This study on MK7 concluded that it did not stop bone loss.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19937427
My list of pros/cons for K2 MK4 vs K2 MK7: - MK4 is synthetic and while MK7 is natural
- MK7 is more bioavailable than MK4
- MK4 is more studied and proven than MK7
- If you have a soy allergy, you could react to MK7
Would you agree with this? Has anyone looked into this and what do you think? I'm probably going to stick with MK4 for now, but I'm always open to new information.
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