Some "times" the key I think. At this late date in my life, I am very comfortable doing NOTHING. But going out to dinner at a ethnic restaurant with a gf. She has no family here. For years and years it's been about family and Children. I've loved the holidays for a lot of years...remembering the cookies and milk for santa!!!!!

I have not had a tree in probably 15 yrs and my daughter tells me this is her first year not doing a tree. I say let the trees keep growing in the forests with nature. Another topic.

She is headed for Kauai with her children for a week. When she was 18 I took her to Maui for a week, we departed on christmas day....she is doing this with her children. They are all excited and not missing a tree. All are evolving and changing Minds....

None of us are religious and I'm for sure not into the commercial world of buying, been there, the children have a lot of life ahead of them, they are still into commericalism but I hear some changes....

Peace to all. caroline