Hi thanks kiwi and pamella, I started cutting back last year and in fairness I've had not too bad withdrawals, I have a had a week or so of hell trough the neurontin and a few days totaly flat when I knock of my morphine but I've got away with some of the more drastic symptons , it's just the tiredness that is hurting me badly, I'm quite can't think of the work but maybe a few days in bed would help. Should I put this in another group, maybe chronic pain more some other answer? How do I do it . Thanks again.