Again thanks. And your thoughts on the waterpik ? Also, I think you know me pretty good. I am never easily swayed by anyone. I read and research all I can and then make my decisions. Worked for me when in business and all though my life. Sometimes when I question someone like a doctor or dentist I get some bad looks but we are all human and make mistakes. That's just me and probably will not change. Next time I have a cleaning I will ask them to cut the price being I am missing 8 teeth now. For some odd reason I thought I had three wisdom teeth left but when I looked with a mirror today the top ones are long gone. Looks like I have 24 teeth total so it should not take them as long to clean lol I am sure that will go over good : Tom