Thanks for letting me rant some , sometimes I just need to scream it through my finger tips lol. But you do make a good point on the DH and something I strongly suspect as his reasoning for liking the latest. Even if I'm not especially prone at all to breaking down from the pain, he can still tell how much pain I'm in from day to day. I'm sure if he could grab his tool belt and fix me he would... shame he didn't marry a cabinet