I think that your kids are really lucky Donna, because it's clear from your posts that you love your family very much and are a good mother. I'm sure that you have been a positive influence on your boys, and have given them good guidance
I think you are 100& right... sometimes some people just have to
WANT to be or have to be somehow
MOTIVATED to take care of themselves.
Bobby, I wasn't aware that I didn't have the tools to take care of myself for a long time. I've really just learned how to do it
better recently.