Also somewhat feels like the pain you experience when smash your thumb with a hammer or your finger in a car door. You know the pain right? It's the secondary pain that's a lot worse an instant after the first pain you feel when these events first happen. I hope this gets out there to somebody who can commiserate and assist. Warmth helps lightly. I have an herbal oil from China I use and it's also helps somewhat. But the thing that really gets me through the 8 months of pain levels 7 to 11 out ten is the pain medication diluadid. But I need to reduce this med as it is having a severe negative impact on my body.