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Old 06-29-2019, 04:54 AM
DarKnight DarKnight is offline
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Originally Posted by Dontbeamelvin View Post
If you read the blog and read the exercises.. and watched the videos there are actually videos on how to strengthen scalenes. If your shoulder is dropped or droopy it puts excessive tension on the neck muscles including the scalenes. By strengthening the shoulder girdle and neck musculature it allows the shoulder to rise up and lifts the collarbone. When the shoulder is lifted the scalenes, levator scapulae, and upper trap are no longer put on a chronic stretch which causes the atrophy. So no. It's not magic. Pec minor is also a shoulder muscle. The pec minor and latissimus dorsi pull you into hunched posture and also can aid in the process of droopy shoulder syndrome. By strengthening the shoulder and stretching the lats and pecs minor, they will slowly work back to their lengthened state.

I'm not a big fan of your condescending tone in your messages. If you didn't notice I said this isn't a cure all for everyone. I also linked to several scientific studies where they had success treating some people with thoracic outlet syndrome "like" symptoms. My point is that thoracic outlet syndrome is a series of symptoms, it is not a proper diagnoses. By that I mean just saying you have thoracic outlet syndrome does not imply any cause. There are many causes of thoracic outlet syndrome. This is ONE of them. I do not have cervical ribs, and quite frankly I don't buy that I suddenly have a deformation or issue with a muscle for no reason.

My reasoning is such that I got myself here with poor habits and movement patterns, therefore there must be a way to restore proper movement and habits and heal. If you choose to believe that you have lived your entire life with a deformed scalenes that all the sudden began causing you symptoms that is fantastic. I hope you find your answer to your problems. I am just trying to provide ideas for people that are suffering as I am.

There is no need for you to shoot down ideas, and reputable research. That only adds to the hopelessness that I am sure many people feel. There is no magic in working hard to fix your body. What is "magic" to me is that you can "release" a muscle and it magically heals people. If that worked would this forum even exist? Everyone would just go to the massage therapist every once in a while and be fine.

By the way I know about the nerve glides, and yes they hurt. But imply does not mean you have it. Like I said. Many people can show false positives, this is why they are not considered reliable tests. But I am honestly done replying to you. You choose to believe what you want. I will continue to try and find answers and share what I find.

Based on what I have read from you, you have accepted the idea that you just have a bad scalene and it can't be fixed. If you feel that way, go get the surgery and be done with it.
" If you choose to believe that you have lived your entire life with a deformed scalenes that all the sudden began causing you symptoms "
I didn't say that. only a VERY small precentage of T.O.S sufferers are born with a deformity. most of them get the deformity by doing repetitive hand motions over a long period of time without rest(or having extra rib grow all of the sudden). I got that info by data that I read online from PubMed etc.
Now coming back to your droppy shoulder... yes I understood that collarbone theory very well and I agree with it to an extent. but I will continue to support my position that it can put extra pressure on neck & chest muscles, therefore contributing to existing T.O.S. but I will not agree that it is a direct cause and that is where we will not come to agreement. maybe in rare cases it will actually cause T.O.S.
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