I sent you a PM, but one has to clean up their sugars/carbs. Why you have pain, I don't know. Grape Seed Ex is great for gum health. I use the Myrrh on spots when a pain comes up. Vit C I take 1000-2000mg daily most days, on Grape Seed Ex, 200mg but again I've been taking these many years......I have great gum health.