gibbrn thanks, I forgot I have a exercise ball and I get on it laying on it with my back so the ball is between my shoulders and I slowly relax I breath and I let my shoulders slump back pulling my chest open since we with TOS huntch so much, I also was told to walk with my hands in my pocket or on my wast to raise my shoulder up- man TOS makes us all out of wack or is it just me.
Going back to the ball I think I over did it, I also have a spot on my SUV LOL that I lean against near the back that fits between my shoulder blades and I can pull my arms back and chest open I know I know I'm wierd THANKS ALL!