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Old 08-12-2007, 01:23 PM
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Tayla,

I don't think your first paragraph accurately represents me or my experiences, but whether it does or not, it doesn't address the issues raised in this thread.

In an earlier post you wrote: There is documented and anecdotal evidence that some people do well on them [antipsychotic drugs]; we have seen some of your anecdotal evidence, but I'm more interested in research (or even case studies).

Also, I have been a Marine; been in close-combat situations; worked as an oilfield roughneck, construction worker and truck driver, and suffered several injuries that later infected, and I can't say: Never have I been prescribed something that has not had all it's possible effects, both good and bad explained to me at length. It is only then the decision as to whether I am willing to trial it is made----by me.

Frankly, I wouldn't have a clue as to which antibiotic is most effective against which bacteria. I may well be ...openly suspicious of the motives of all doctors, as you assert, but I trust them to know more about that stuff than me. I trust them to pick the one that works best, not just throw darts at a med-chart.

On the other hand, I would be more than mildly annoyed if one prescribed Geodon for my infection simply because she/he hoped it might help. Lest anyone accuse me of an extreme example, there is no more evidence that Geodon (or any antipsychotic) is more efficacious in treating RSD than it is infection.

If a physician were to prescribe a powerful drug that passes the blood-brain barrier and can cause all of the potential problems and side-effects attributed to Geodon (and other antipsychotics), WITHOUT any evidence at all that it offers promise of helping my RSD, I would tear it up in his/her face and refuse to pay the bill.

If a physician were to prescribe such a drug without warning me of all of the warnings about interactions and side-effects, I would report her/him to the state board of healing arts, and I'm sure action would be taken.

Which leads to my next point: When I spoke of ...careless and indescriminate writing of prescriptions without due and adequate preparation of the patient... (your words, of course, but certainly my sentiments), I was specifically referring to your statement that: Antipsychotics are not an uncommon drug here in Australia for the treatment of RSD-

In Kansas, even involuntary psychiatric patients must be warned of the side-effects of antipsychotic drugs, and have the right to refuse them. They can't be released while they are still a danger to others, so many agree to take them. An imperfect system, but we try.

I assume that your reports of rather widespread prescription of these dangerous drugs in Australia v the U.S. are accurate, since you report:


I belong to a pain management support group arranged by our Pain Management team , we meet once a week. Seven of the 13 usual members have RSD/CRPS. We cover many topics, medications is just one of them and it is here that we get to know what drugs are being used and where I have anecdotal evidence of the efficacy of some antipsychotic drugs----they make some people feel better and they are certainly not behaving as though their brains are fried, they are simply happy to have an improved quality of life.

When you say they make some people feel better and they are certainly not behaving as though their brains are fried, they are simply happy to have an improved quality of life..., I can only assume that the "they" you speak of are one or more than one of the people in your group...how else would you know these things?

On the other hand, of the much larger group at this Forum, only one person spoke of taking Geodon. I suggest this implies a more rational method of practicing medicine in one of these two countriess.

I would have preferred to debate the safety and efficacy of antipsychotics like Geodon, but I can only reply to what you offer. I look forward to seeing some sort of documentation showing evidence of the efficacy of these drugs; we already know enough about their safety...Vic
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