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Originally Posted by Vicc
This debate began, at least in part, because I felt I needed to reply to the implied accusation that my use of abstracts in my research made my conclusions unscientific and unreliable.
Since then it has degenerated into what it has now become: I don't intend to play this game anymore. I have offered reasons why I believe RSD is an IRI, you have argued that there is proof that it is the result of a nerve injury, but refuse to offer any evidence.
If you want to play with me, you'll have to bring some new toys: In my thread Facts you may not know about RSD, I explained how ischemia can cause allodynia. Fair's fair; its your turn to offer evidence showing how a nerve injury can cause it.
Lets put an end to accusations and return to a more reasoned approach to this topic...Vic
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Vicc,
You say we have not shown you proof of RSD being a nerve injury but I feel that proof is never entirely possible, however when I read the research of many very learned people who have spent years developing the theory behind the cause of RSD/CRPS then I tend to find comfort from the consistancy from these people. It also makes good sense to my level of understanding.
So when you ask us for proof you must also be expected to provide proof of your theory as from all my research I only find you that has this hypothesis.
I have repeatedly said also that I am not someone who wants to dismiss a theory such as yours unless I have absolute evidence that it is rubbish and that is what I am asking you for.
If I may I would like to respectfully ask you a question or two:-
* How does someone with a paper cut develop RSD if IRI is the cause?
* Why, if cyanosis is such a part of IRI induced RSD, are there so
many people who do not have cyanosis as a feature of their RSD?
* How do you explain that cyanosis is a transient feature in some
people with RSD whose cyanotic and cold limb will become pink and
warm following a sympathetic nerve block?
I am afraid that I do not feel that skin that so amazingly changes colour in front of my eyes after 10 mls of lignocaine has been delivered to my lumber sympathetic nerve region was tissue that cyanosed because of IRI. I have seen much skin on patients which has died due to ischaemia--it does not resolve from a nerve block, it usually needs amputating.
Could the transient cyanosis of RSD just be a plain old sympathetic vasomotor response?
You say that you don't want to play this game but I don't feel it is a game, I see it as responsible questioning from people who are becoming increasingly confused by the information that is being put out there.
Tayla