Enough is enough with this issue, y'all.

What started as a debate has turned into a personal "I'm gonna prove my point and have the last word doing it" sorta thing, splintering into various threads and hijacking other discussions. That would be fine if this forum were set up for that. It would be fine in PM. It would be fine if it involved just the few engaging.

HOWEVER...

This forum is for support...for anyone and everyone who needs it. When an issue becomes a personal quest for being right, flames thrown in, etc., it kinda ruins it for everyone, yes?

Because there are several members of this forum who read, lurk, respond, etc. for its mission, I'm requiring that the discussion on this end here. If you want to continue to prove points, attack, etc., take it to PM where those that don't want to see it can ignore effectively, and those that do want to continue can without it affecting others.

From this point it's not on the administration if posts are removed, it's on the member involved. It's easy to blame the administration when its worked non-stop, ignoring other parts of the community and their personal lives to watch a debate that's turned into a personal argument of purpose to put MUCH time into something where the members involved work with it little and continue.

A debate is not a debate if there aren't opposing sides making a stand, nor is an argument...put the member on ignore or simply don't respond. If you feel you must, do so in PM...to be in accordance with the guidelines, but more for your fellow members here.

Regardless of why one chooses to do it, it needs to be done and the disruption in this forum needs to end...for the success of this forum but also for the comfort and care for your fellow members.

Again, any post continuing this personal public argument will be removed for the whole of the membership, and yes, the administration can be blamed...blamed for caring for the whole of this forum, its members and this community.

I appreciate the care and passion of each and every person, and that's one reason the debate continued even after personal flames. However, there comes a point when a personal argument/debate becomes disruptive to those around it. This is that point. The members involved need to "lay it down" and move forward. If they can't, the administration will aid in that...again, for the many that attempt to use the forums for its mission.

KD