Well I may be going for the esi shot toay (thoric) not sur if i will be doing it yet as still didn't get the answer of how they do it may just go and find out , the pain has been at the level of 9 and i cann\'t stand another day of living this way. am going to my pcp first and seeing what he says, though i have an idea as he didn't want me doing this at all too dangerous, buthe is not living in this body of p[ain , i have been screwing up at work, just going in getting my job done and leaving not like me at all, they have been very good about it bit for how long. my creditors are all breathing down my back and i don't see a easy way out, i have been advised to seek out an autory and see about wc though i have nevefr done this it may be the only financia; hope i have left. so coonfused I will let you all know how it goes today you all have been such i great help and i am so glad i have fopund thisd forum.. deb