I appreciate everyone's responses here, and there's been an attempt a couple of times thus far to bring the thread back from some going "back and forth" in ways that are bringing about some negative feelings and comments.

I feel this thread has pretty well run its course in the responses to the OP and, in an attempt to help us move away from the upsetting/potentially upsetting, I'll be closing the thread.

Again, I appreciate everyone's comments.

KD