Alffe i'm not sure if you took what i said in my post as saying that it was ok to "threaten" ppl with suicide.

overall, i hope that my post did not come across as saying that threatening suicide on a forum is acceptable. i did not mean that. i meant only that i feel it needs to be ok to talk about it, past present thoughts, and ideation... to whatever extent.

i believe one should be able to say if they feel suicidal, and that this communication of one's state/feelings, per se is not a threat.

i see a "threat" as an ultimatum, an "or else" ... etc, as being a manipulation and even a power play, in whichever context, forum, email, live, whatever. and that this is not acceptable, in any context.

i just don't know how to delineate well the difference, just trying to say that i see a big difference between expressing being suicidal, and threatening it.

~ waves ~