There is nothing stopping you from using both...its not a boxed in either or situation.....Ill look at both when I have time, maybe post a reply or two.....but I really dont like the tone there that much, it reminds me of Catholic School in the 60's. Many of us , myself included , have felt desperate at times about their medical problems or maybe application for workers comp or social security or ability to work. In my opinion we know we have problems and we already know we need to talk to people in the same boat, there is no need for the constant reminders of who has unilateral, unlimited power over the site.