thanks for the knowledge, that would be great. She does complain quite often of her shoulder hurting also, but I never actually ever made a connection, I figured maybe she was sleeping wrong or something. He(NS) feels since it has been over 2+ months since the shunt was converted va to vp it shouldn't be post-surgical, taking into account the fact that her tummy never really handled the line draining there, that is why it was moved back and forth there twice, once in the perotineal(chest cavity) and once va. The pain generally last days and is not positional either. We'll find out tomorrow, keeping fingers crossed, only going into the stomach sounds great to us, but definately better than another revision.