hey cat, about time you got here! you sent me the link a week ago.

dorry and zombie slayer have solved my flash problem, long thread in computer forum. never completely figured out what happened or what solved it, but it is working now and NO flash.

when i calm down i will type up a set of their instructions and post them for others who want to get rid of flash. which does NOT want to leave.

personally, i am convinced that all my computer problems are caused by alligators, but somehow no one else agrees.