David, I have always appreciated your holistic approach. Because of my former profession, I was well aquainted with Yoga, meditation, tens, and many other things. I tried them all, as well as supplements, dietary changes, exercise, etc. Unfortuanately, my pain level remained at a life threatening level - that is, it remained so severe that I contemplated suicide regualrly. I do take Lyrica now, as well as use a fentanly patch. I hate using these drugs, but am grateful for them, as they are preferable to death. Remember, not everyone has the same pain level, the same responses to alternative measures or medicine, etc. It is great to share all of our ideas, but we must remain vigilant not to come across as judgmental. We all walk our own road.