Thanks. Well I haven't had a bread machine for over 3 years. I was talking to DH after we talked about the Zojirushi and he asked me what was wrong with the one I had , "I don't have one". I told him (again) it broke over 3 years ago, he said didn't you get a new one, "NO". He just was like "Oh". So I felt like it was time to get a new one. After all he thought I already bought one, LOL.