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Old 08-02-2008, 03:59 PM
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I want to strongly suggest against LIMEWIRE for it is the most troublesome backdoor hacking out there especially when one doesn't know what one is doing. About half of my clients bring their puters to me with problems starting from Limewire...
I don't doubt it at all.

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In the era that we came from, it was LEGAL to download songs from the radio onto our tapes. It was LEGAL for us to backup our music to another tape. Almost everyone our age did it.
I'm not sure if it was technically "legal" but yes, we all did it. However, it didn't present the problem it does today. And -- it is a question of DISTRIBUTING it. It is illegal to distribute if you are not the legal owner or have permission.

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and if the music was good, we went out and we BOUGHT the tapes even though we can just share it. Back then, it was consider a proud and honor thing to own your own latest music album from so and so if we loved it....cause it is like owning a good piece of Artwork such as Georgia O or Ansel Adam.

It was also the age of good music...
I agree with what you said above completely. Even when Napster first started, it seemed like it was in the same spirit. It really wasn't but it felt like the old days when you would go over to a friend's house and browse through their record collection. There was a potential value to it but it went amuck. For the most part, people don't buy what they can get for free.

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Personally, I can't listen to 70% of the crap (my very personal opinion) that's out there these days. They are crap to ME...I can't imagine myself listening to "Don't you wish your girlfriend was more like moi" in 20 years...or "Bye Bye Bye" in 30 years...

but I will listen to "Yesterday" again and again...

yes, I do agree to some extent that it IS stealing...but that depends on what it is...
The law is pretty clear but even I agree that to a certain extent there's a middle ground. In the most simplified terms, it's related to intention.

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the days of the LP's where they have artists drawing on their albums and they TRAVELED everywhere for FREE just to get an audience to listen to their music. They were practically giving away their music in hopes that someone would listen to their music. And even after giving a lot of their records away, if it was GOOD, they would still sells thousands if NOT millions of records cause it was just GOOD MUSIC!
Again, I agree! But they don't sell like that anymore. For today's emerging artist it is almost impossible to well...emerge. There's TONS of good music out there that you don't know about. It's out there but it's not easy to find because access to the public is limited. The big companies are "gate keepers".

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the record industry wants you to believe that they are hurting? Really? When was the last time you saw one of those artists out on the street begging for food? When was the last time you saw one of those crappy record producer driving a pinto?
Well, both the record AND film industry IS hurting as compare to the profit they once made. But forget the big companies' bottom lines themselves -- people are losing jobs. On the music side artists, producers, songwriters and their representatives ARE hurting. Record stores are barely existent anymore. I could go on but honestly, your assessment of what happens behind the scenes is absolutely incorrect. The people you don't see and the creators you never hear of. By making the comment you did above, you're completely buying into why these sites tell you it's okay and it's a big bunch of baloney. If you don't believe creators should be compensated for their work, that's another story. But if you do, plesae understand that when the companies don't get paid, they don't either.

Re: YouTube, there is a huge crackdown. The large companies continue to go after YouTube and/or make deals with them. There are many sponsored sites up on YouTube now by music, television and film companies.

As for putting out crap, it is definitely related but it's a whole 'nother conversation...
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