There’s a real stigma attached to someone who is mentally ill, IMHO, but an even bigger stigma attached to someone who has had ECTs Unquote.

And let's never underestimate the stigma of suicide to the survivors...those left behind. I know you know BJ.

How do we give someone the will to live....how do we convince them that the lure of suicide is a lie. You are living proof of someone who will go down that long recommended road, painful as it is, trusting in the hope of finding happiness, love, and many reasons to go on living.

that's why I admire the heck out of you. Pter would have loved knowing you because he understood the struggle.