exactly Allen look at the so called dark ages, in Europe, meanwhile the Muslims, they new of the stars the medical knowledge they had was still 1000 years ahead of egotistical people who think that knowledge is something new to the 20th century. Archimedes makes me wonder if he hadn't found some access to this knowledge from possibly even more ancient cultures, or the guy was unbelievable, the intellect he held was outstanding. I have a strong feeling we have forgotten more than we will ever know, I did see a show that took tree core samples and came to the conclusion that drought was the reason for the failure of the ancient natives of south america, famine disease and all things that follow in line with droughts, all I know is my bday is dec 23 and in 2012 we are celebrating it on the 20th

i sure hope the mayans are wrong to think i will be two days short of being able to be an AARP member

hey any one want to tackle anti matter for us lol