Thank you so much for your replies.

I already do the no drinks after 6pm thing (I remember that from when the kids were bed wetters). I don't have stress incontinence...i.e. I don't wet if I cough or sneeze, this is all the time, every day type stuff which has continued to deteriorate ever since I gave up catheterisation.

Are krugels those pelvic floor exercises Fin? If so, I do those when I remember. I don't remember them often enough ....my bad .... I'll have to make sure I get better at that. I will also try the regular second hourly trips to the loo and see how I go. That one makes sense (thank you) and something I should have thought of myself.

I'm with you on the neurological cause Kicker, and I think I'll mention it to my doc when next I go. My DH had to help me when I was using catheters, but he only helped with equiptment type things. It would probably have been easier for him to get the caths in, as he'd have been able to see where he was aiming, where-as I couldn't.

Thanks again. You've all helped in some way.