That was alot for my mush brain to hold onto, so maybe I am way out there with this but what you say Dave sounds like Mind over Matter.

I have lots of pains, Some I can tell are no thanks to MS, but my leg, butt, and lower back pain isn't.

If I didn't tell my doctor (s) I would never have found out that I have severe Osteoarthritis, Facet Joint disease amongst other problems. I finally gave up and just received steriod injections in 4 of my facet joints....So far so good, but I know they may not last long especially with mine being severe.

I have done the mind over matter thing with a therapist, but in the end the pain laughed at me in so many ways my mind gave up on the matter.

What works for some doesn't always work for the rest!

Good Luck and I really hope you get relief soon from your pain.