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Old 11-13-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by msdrea83 View Post
I've been talking and emailing with Dr. Leverone in L.A. he doesn't do the coma, but he does do ketamine infusions that are outpatient. he does them like 3 different ways... if anyone wants more info about it i can explain more, or give you his number/email. i'm hopefully having one done in a month.
He's a nice man Msdrea.

What's neat about him is that he offers what would be considered high dose, outpatient, 4 hours infusions.

To put it in perspective. And again, these are just the numbers I know of and also why those CPT codes I posted earlier are so important. Alot of this stuff is getting covered now!

Old school low dose in patient treatment used to be 15mg-40mg an hour, 24 hours a day for 5 days. Can cost approx. 25k

2 Hour outpatient (125 mg/hour) - you can find these for 700-1000 I believe.

4 hour outpatient (135 mg./hour) - w/Dr. Kirkpatrick in Tampa FL is $2,500 a day, and he will do up to 3 days in a row.

4 hour outpatient (300-400 mg./hour) - w/Dr. Leverone in L.A. is $2,000

Mind you, the Doctors surmise (some anyway) that the effectiveness of Ketamine is dose dependent and duration dependent.

It's still very much a guessing game, but most of the coma patients i know feel, "The more/higher amount of Ketamine, the better".

A list of doctors and their methods and fee's should really get put together as a resource. More and more Doctors are starting to offer this treatment. Hell, Dr. Kirkpatrick has now setup a 2 or 3 day continuing education class for Dr's at his facility in Tampa so that they can start offering it themselves.

Pretty exciting stuff!

Wish you all the best, and remember those CPT codes! Also, when you talk to your insurance company, let them know that Ketamine is a FDA approved to treat acute pain, reference the CPT codes, and also let them know the treatment has "Durability", meaning, it provides lasting relief. How long, is not fully known. I wouldn't mention anything about it being experimental as they aren't big fans of that, but, as a whole, Ketamine has been used for pain for a long time and it IS approved by the FDA for treating pain.

Do your research guys/gals, and pick your Doctor's carefully! Our first Doctor set us back a year, the wrost year of our lives under his care.

Best Regards
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