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Old 12-13-2008, 01:46 AM
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lol. you are funny Mari ...

NY is a different kind of place - so to really feel this I think you have to have spent some time here. The social dynamics involved in the subway mass transit experience are pretty involved. I'm sure it would make a great dissertation... There is a class element, there is a wide range of ethnicities, stereotypes...

I guess I hope that the fellow criticizing the pan-handler will think about his behavior and attitude. I've been in HIS shoes and made an @22 of myself in front of people before. I've also been corrected. I've felt humiliated; but I've learned from it.

When the fellow began his criticism of the fellow in the faux Rockport shoes, he involved the entire car. He spoke in a loud voice that invited all in ear shot to hear him.

I know that when I behave that way it is because I'm seeking the attention and approval of the people around me - and generally that I think they share my sentiment.

Again, you have to understand NYC at this level.

So for me to call him out on that was a shock to him. He had no idea how any of us were perceiving him.

For the people around him it was an affirmation that a middle class white man would stand up in the panhandler's defense. (he was not a white man)

The man doing the criticizing was of Indian/Pakistani ethnic background.

So you have to understand all of that before you get the full flavor of the story...

The ethnicities don't matter, but the dynamic they create - the expections, the unspoken beliefs matter a LOT.




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Originally Posted by Mari View Post
Tritone,
If a guy is going to wander the subways, he should have decent footwear.

It's amazing to me how your action of getting up, engaging the idiot, and then giving the panhandler $20.00 had so much effect on the car.
And those actions effected you as well.


If nothing more, you gave the other guys something to talk about when they got to their next stop.

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