thanks everyone for your thoughts...

This is very interesting to read because all your responses remind me of these philosphers:

Plato and Friedrich Nietzsche on the Western side and
Confucious and LaoTze on the Eastern Side.


Basically, Plato and Confucious laid the "rules"

they are saying by virtue of men, we all need to have rules, rules for this and rules for that.



Nietzche and LaoTze basically said, it is because of these rules, that it ruined men.

they are arguing that men(women) should be self governing and that by rules were the beginning of destruction.

FOR EXAMPLE:

a son cried very hard when his parents died. He cried so hard that it reached the emperor's ears and he declared that this son is so filial that he should be commanded thus he erected him a plaque to honor him.

the other neighbors got wind of this so whenever their parents died, they cried even harder and grieved even harder...and some even went as far to destroy their bodies to show that they were truly grieving...

It's interesting that in Aesop's fable, he used the hunter who saw a hare that ran into a tree and died and he got a free meal without hunting thus he started to stake out the tree instead of hunting for his own food.

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I am not saying who is right or wrong.

I think there should always be a balance.

Without laws, there would be corruption. But some have argued that it IS because of laws, corruptions began in men.

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in the bible, where Adam and Eve were of pure soul until the corruption of the Apple...

but DID the apple corrupted Eve or did Eve already had intent to eat the apple. The snake/devil simply was blamed because he tempted her...but DID he??

Or did Eve used that as an excuse...

I have found so many religioNS old texts such as Gilgamesh that have discussed ethics and the different views of it are simply very interesting...

and this has been very interesting, thanks for indulging me...