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Originally Posted by tritone
I'm sure it could be so - that many of these public events are projections of our inner conflicts.
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This... is an interesting observation. And probably very accurate. So now you leave me to ponder why the specific incidents that get me "animated" do... what do they represent within me.
Then again, not sure it was clear, i am not prone to such outbursts at all. When i'm hypo is when it seems to come out. Still, qualitatively there may be something to the types of incidents i react to. When i'm not hypo or leaning that way, i usually just sit and stew, sometimes wishing i had the guts to say something, sometimes just wishing our civilization were... more civilized. But perhaps even the concept of "civilization" is just an illusion we have to keep our egos fluffy. Maya.
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Originally Posted by tritone
One of the other passenger's sentiments was, "it can happen to anybody..." so I guess that is a very strong theme with me. I've seen myself wind up in places. I've seen people I know wind up in places they didn't deserve to be, didn't plan to be...
I see the smoking on the train. I see the littering. That bothers me too. I've been known to say, "Hi, the trash bin is over there..." - but not really get animated about it.
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This occasion was different.
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In no way was i trying to compare my stories to the incident you described... regarding how the pan-handler was being judged, and how it affected you personally. Simply the thread had got sort of diluted with exchanges on subway and public transit stories and culture... i thought i'd toss mine in. i put in a separator line for good measure but still perhaps i was not clear. if any similarity between our experiences is to be noted it would only be in the context of the sociological phenomenon of how ppl are overall too inhibited to correct each other for the common good... yet when someone else does, suddenly there are a host of followers. like an empty dance floor... until the first person dances.
i was not trying to compare my telling off someone smoking or scribbling on the bus in any way to what or why you did what you did on the subway........ i did not mean to diminish the meaning in that story in and of itself. i'm sorry if my post came across that way.
the bit you quoted me on, about self-judgement v.s. remorse... that was a huge breakthrough for me in therapy, and in life. when we are able to be mindful of our self-judgements, and mitigate them with compassion, then we are more able to avoid judging others. i believe you have learned this in a deep, harsh way... by having been and continuing to be judged by the rules of our... dare i say it... "civilization." Maya.
may you encounter less and less judgement from those around you, for you have suffered more than enough by your own during times of turmoil.
may there be peace in your heart tonight. you are a deep and wonderful soul.
~ waves ~