Suicide hasn't touched my life in the same way as some here. So I can only reply from my own perspective. Right or wrong.

I do feel that the inner pain and termoil a person who commits suicide is their own personal breaking point. Maybe if they had given it 5 minutes longer, those feeling would have gone.

But in that frame of mind, there isn't another 5 minutes that they can endure.

I feel such heartache Alffe when you post that Michael's suicide ruined your life. You have such a wonderful loving, caring, beautiful family. You give and recieve love from all over the world.

It absolutly SUCKS that your life was changed. Not fair at all. The path you were on went off in a different direction. Halted for awhile.

I do have post this, it's not to add any extra weight on your shoulders, but how many people have NOT committed suicide from reading your posts and others here on the forum? That end of the rope that someone is tugging? That last glimmer of hope that tomorrow might be a tad bit better? That someone cares and will listen?

My wish is that no one should ever had died in vain, that their time on earth meant something and should be shared and remembered.

I love you Alffe. I'm making tear soup..want a bowl?

(pm to follow if my modem stays on)