(Alffe) I do finally understand. It's been years since that "The Ultimate F*** You" post/thread where I totally misread/misunderstood what you were saying. Thank you for your love and compassion for those of us who survived our suicide action(s). I survived--my grandmother and two cousins did not. John's 2nd wife shot herself through the heart, and he told me, after a heated discussion/argument, to go ahead and kill myself. So . . . if I didn't have this forum as a type of support group, there would be NO support.