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Originally Posted by mrsD View Post
Since she had a lump for a long time, implies to me a reaction.

Here is a site, which is very controversial but interesting:
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/point.html

Timing...
http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/.../full/96/8/611
I think people vary in the timing to reactions. To assume that they have to be immediate does not take into account that all people ARE different.

http://www.thenhf.com/vaccinations_25.htm

Adults get viruses in the ear fairly often. When vertigo cannot be identified, virus is often the suggested diagnosis.
These tend to resolve over time (can be months).

I hate to bring this subject up: huffing.
Kids that age will experiment with it secretly...since it is easy to get stuff to inhale.
A professional colleague of mine's daughter was doing this!
Freaked my friend out, majorly!
Good kids can get induced by peer pressure to "try" something.
So keep this in mind...and think about the kids she hangs with, etc.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs07/708/index.htm
And this is difficult for a parent and/or doctor to discover.

Also I'd investigate what is going on in Art Class or shop etc.
Solvents like xylol are used in silk screen printing and have neuro effects when used without a protective hood/exhaust system.

Also I'd look for heavy metals. Lead, mercury, cadmium, and arsenic may be found in
some paints/art supplies. Testing for these is fairly straightforward.

I'd also ask your daughter if there is anyone hostile to her, bullying her, competing with her?
Mean girls or boys can spike a water bottle with a drug, like LSD and cause terrible
reactions.
A gal at my old job who was order entry, had her water bottle spiked at work, and
she ended up in the hospital! A police investigation failed to find the person, and
the victim quit the job. Also a teacher in a school near us had his coffee drugged as a
prank/dare by a boy, and this teacher ended up in the psyche ward (reacting since he
was grieving his wife's recent sudden death). Mean things like this happen, and it
is not typically one's first thought.
Thanks MrsD. Phew, what a lot to think about.

Our school system in Canada a fair bit different than the USA, and 13 yr olds are still in the elementary system (like most Gr 5's in the US). They aren't even allowed to wear spagetti strapped tops, or short-shorts or anything revealing. Our schools are also quite small (300 - 400 each) so EVERYONE knows everything about each other. We don't really have poverty/inner-city school issues, guns, drugs, or anything like that. In many ways, they really don't get any exposure to these kinds of things (chemicals, solvents, drugs, etc.). . . at least until next year.

There are the EXTREME few elementary kids that get into trouble like you've indicated, and there is definitely bullying, etc. that goes on . . . but at 13, it's still mostly harmless antics, like sending "secret Valentines". Next year is a whole new kettle of fish though . . . and I know that based on my own personal experience, as well as my eldest's who is almost 17 now.

She is very "developed" for her age, and gets plenty of attention because of that. That brings some obstacles, but she really does not have a lot of freedom to get herself in much trouble. I am home all day, drive her to school and back, and am very up on the friends she keeps. Most times they all spend their time here anyway.

The pediatrician neuro did test her for some things, including drugs and sexual activity, and she confirmed that she has not been up to anything. We have a very open relationship too, and I am fairly open-minded and liberal, so my kids have been straight-up with me for the most part. Some things I don't want to know, but they have an open-door to their family doctor too . . . and any of that conversation is (believed to be, at least in their eyes ) confidential.

I think the immunizations is something to consider, and I will be following up on those links, thanks.

My doctor has always been very frank with me, and yesterday he said "don't go digging around the internet for a dx, Cherie". He said "you know these things take time .... hopefully a LONG time".

I appreciate all the thought you put into coming up with so many ideas, MrsD. I understand all of the things you mention are REAL concerns, no matter where we live, and I have considered them even if it perhaps "sounds" like I am being naive.

Cherie
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